Virtual Interview with Charlene M. Proctor

Today I have the great pleasure of being the host on Day 12 of the Virtual Blog Tour of author Charlene M. Proctor whose book The Oneness Gospel:  Birthing the Christ Consciousness and Divine Human in You launches on Amazon on Tuesday April 24, 2012. 

Charlene M. Proctor, Ph.D. is an ordained Minister of Spiritual Peacemaking and a “Deeksha” facilitator trained by the oneness guides from Fiji and India.  She is the bestselling author of Let Your Goddess Grow! 7 Spiritual Lessons on Female Power and Positive Thinking and The Women’s Book of Empowerment: 323 Affirmations That Change Everyday Problems Into Moments of Potential. Her Midwestern sensibility and spiritual approach to self-empowerment has helped thousands awaken to their Divine magnificence within.

Author Charlene M. Proctor, Ph.D. has written a new book that brings us back to the Essence of true spirituality. The book, entitled The Oneness Gospel: Birthing the Christ Consciousness and Divine Human in You, is a rich mix of science, spirituality and mysticism that transcends the boundaries of religion, and uplifts the reader to that place of Oneness. An ordained Minister of Spiritual Peacemaking and a Deeksha facilitator trained by the oneness guides from Fiji and India, Charlene’s mission in life is to help awaken to their Divine magnificence within all humanity.

Yesterday, Charlene visited Andrew Mondia at, where they talked about living joyfully, ancient mind and unconditional love.

Today, I’d like to share with you a recent interview I had with Charlene when I got to ask her some questions on “The dark night of the soul,” ancient mind and increasing awareness. I hope you enjoy it.


E.Dee Conrad: What is the dark night of the soul and how does facing this part of aware selves help release suffering?

Charlene M. Proctor: When we bring more light into the body, there is a corresponding emotional and biological reaction. Old barriers, physical blocks, and emotional patterns come to the surface in order to be released. The dark night of the soul represents a cleansing of the personal unconscious in preparation for a deeper descent of light, and is usually considered as a prerequisite for the deeper stages of spiritual mastery.

Jesus experienced this dark night of the soul prior to his public mission as he ‘wrestled with Satan’ in the wilderness. Buddha also experienced this during his process of enlightenment as he fought the ‘temptations of Mara’. It is only frightening as long as we are afraid to die. Once we realize that there is no ’self’ left to die, a new dawn can begin. If we choose to enter and experience our own dark night we must be willing to deeply examine our past and all aspects of it from an emotional level, and then accept our humanity and practice forgiveness. Then, release the past and move forward to be part of the human community.

You can also reimagine your own divinity and know, collectively and individually, you are God also.  You are not separate from the divine. Knowing your true self is to know the power and potential within you. By being aligned with this energy and idea, you can certainly do all the works the greatest masters have done. This was a consistent message from Jesus who reminded us to identify with The I AM. “From me, All (The I AM) came forth, and through me, all is attained,” he said.  Light is everywhere and so are we. “Split a piece of wood, I am there, lift up a stone, and you will find me there.” The ALL refers to being itself, in other words, being a light-being, and does not refer to knowing him as a person or through any religion. Light always overcomes darkness, so just remember who you truly are on a regular basis.

E.Dee Conrad: What lessons can we learn from the Ancient Mind and how can it help us cope in today’s frenetically paced environment?

Charlene M. Proctor: There is only One Mind.  It sounds quirky, but there is only one mind. Our individual brains are separate within our bodies and the details of our minds are separate, for example, what I prefer, what I like to eat for breakfast, what I think about in my work, or my favorite color. These thoughts are my thoughts, but I am not thinking anything new that someone else has not thought of a thousand years ago.  I have the same fears, emotions, grief, pain that someone has had. We all have experienced the same suffering, it is not unique.

The Mind wants us to create all kinds of concepts and beliefs about our suffering so it can constantly perpetuate itself. It does not exist without all that chatter. The mind contains the flow of thoughts, emotions, concepts, beliefs, the past and viewpoints, but it also contains fear, jealousy, judgment, or the quest for significance. The Mind is meant to compare, that is the Mind’s job.  And it works the same for every individual in the world.

The Mind means to be a tool, something to help us distinguish, compare, and decide.  But instead of making friends with the Mind, we’ve let it run amok. It won’t shut up. We have forgotten how to be quiet, and be engaged in what we are doing or experiencing. Instead, we are caught up in the concept of our belief systems, comparisons, or analysis. We need the mind as a great organizer and tool, but it should be working for us, not running our lives. It is up to us to get it under control, be friends with it, and be aware of what it is designed to do.

So, when life becomes overwhelming, remember you can never be free of the Mind, you must become free WITH IT. It always creates a sense of separation, which is where all suffering begins, so first recognize how it is flavoring your present-day reality, and just SEE.

Only then will you learn to love the experience of life, free from conditioning and negativity. Nothing is truly falling apart or uncertain; it is the sense of separation the Mind wants you to see.  When you can embrace that thought, and replace uncertainty with love, life will seem better, and all as it should be.

E.Dee Conrad: What are some every day practices we can use to increase awareness and become a Divine Human?

Charlene M. Proctor: The Divine Human is one who knows their True Self. The Divine Self, or the antaryamin (Divine Indweller) is the higher self, or the god or realized self. It is the knowledge that we are unlimited because we can never be outside of All That Is. When we open up to this, we expand our potential on many levels: in work, in our relationships, in our ability to love and be joyful.

We can never understand or experience God through someone else’s eyes, nor experience the same self-development path of another individual.  All humans will be on their own individual path to this knowledge, in this lifetime or in other lifetimes.  All truth is developed through individual insight. However, the following principles will help guide your path, and help you to be more authentic and at ease with life during your process. These principles speak to universal truth and the essence of what it means to lead a spiritual life:

1.    First understand yourself and your relationship to the Divine.

2.    Know that the journey begins where you are, not where you want to be. Consider life as it is and accept it. See reality clearly. Put your spiritual development at the top of your list.

3.    Revere the Divine. Live with awareness of your inner God. Place the creator where the creator belongs: in you.

4.    Love God with your heart and soul. Feel the freedom and joy of doing so.

5.    Seek truth everywhere, and don’t limit yourself to one faith or wisdom tradition. Read. Question everything. Come up with a version that works for you. 6.    Invite God’s love. Ask for grace and know you are never alone.

7.    Be authentic. Learn to be at ease with yourself. Authenticity lays the groundwork for self-love.

8.    Be a spiritual peacemaker. See yourself as the change you wish to see in the world. Be peaceful and open to forgiveness.

9.    Choose to live in the energy of unconditional love and abandon your judging mind. Learn to love the experience of life, free from conditioning and negativity.

10.    Adopt spiritual practices that make sense to you and understand their meaning. Pray with passion and clarity. Meditate often.

11.    Use auspicious language and don’t allow your thoughts and words to turn into negative stories and illusions.

12.    See God everywhere. Mention God often. Talk about God and say “God” with gusto.

© Charlene M. Proctor Ph.D.  The Oneness Gospel: Birthing the Christ Consciousness and Divine Human in You.  All Rights Reserved.


I hope you enjoyed this interview with Charlene M. Proctor and that you’ll check out her book The Oneness Gospel:  Birthing the Christ Consciousness and Divine Human in You at

Here’s why:

When you sign up for a reminder, you’ll receive:

•    A FREE pass to attend Charlene’s inspiring “Your Journey to Joy Webinar” taught by Charlene and presented by best-selling author Lynn Serafinn. On this uplifting and informative webinar, Charlene will talk about how we develop our belief in separation and suffering, how those beliefs get stored as trauma in the body, and how to change your inner reality so you can experience JOY in every aspect of your life.

THEN…When you buy The Oneness Gospel on Tuesday April 24th, 2012, you’ll also receive:

•    The MP3 download from the “Your Journey to Joy Webinar” AND

•    An invitation to “Twelve Principles for Becoming a Divine Human”, a special online discussion with Charlene AND

•   A complete library of beautiful, downloadable gifts from authors, speakers, coaches and other enlightened professionals from around the globe. I’m offering a gift too:

3-Part Audio: The Shift. The Message. The Transformation

To request a launch reminder so you’ll remember to pick up The Oneness Gospel on Tuesday April 24th, and receive all these beautiful gifts, go to:

Thanks for reading! As usual, please feel free to share your comments and thoughts below. I love reading your feedback. AND… be sure to follow Charlene tomorrow when the next stop on the Virtual Blog Tour is Lola Fayemi, who will be interviewing Charlene on her story, divine human and emerging the authentic you.  To visit that “stop” on the tour, go to

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